These are 5-shot groups fired at 100 yard targets. Formed by necking up the .223 Rem. The .17 Fireball includes such mild recoil that the shooter gets to watch all the action through the scope. The .221 Fireball was created in 1959 as the initial chambering for Remington's new, unique, "space-age" XP-100 bolt-action pistol. Bullet jump was then extended in 0.005-inch increments until the sweet spot was found. The supplied scope rings that clamp on the square bridge of the receiver are a nice touch. The barrel and action include a protective Parkerized finish. CFE BLK shined, with 16 grains of powder producing a .45-inch group at 3,792 fps, and a maximum load of 17 grains printing .50 inch at 4,091 fps. Jeff Bradley shows off the Modern Hunting Rifle (MHR) from Christensen Arms at SHOT Show 2023. Hornady currently loads its .17 Hornet with 20-grain V-MAX and 15.5-grain NTX bullets. Patches wet with Barnes CR-10 pushed through the bore revealed a total absence of copper fouling. Hammer Bullets' 18 grain Dead Blow is another excellent nontoxic (California compliant) option milled from a single piece of copper. Full-length sizing the fired cases, though, lengthened them .006 inch. When carefully prepared handloads are fired in good barrels, accuracy of the two cartridges is the same. With the CZ sighted in 1.40 inches high at 100 yards, the bullets still hit an inch above aim at 200 yards. Whereas CFE BLK proved to be an excellent choice for the two 17 Hornets, shot-to-shot velocity spread was quite high when it was asked to burn in the roomier case of the 17 Fireball. Hornady Load Data Using .17 Remington Bullets: Be Alert: Publisher cannot be responsible for errors in published load data. Velocities from pressure barrels are usually higher than velocities from off-the-shelf rifles, but in this case it was quite close at 3,836 fps. For the bigger animals such as predators, its very hard to beat a 25-grain hollow point. bullet will surprise you also. I'm watching this thread because I just got my 17 rem upper. Use a Rem 7 1/2 primer. About the same time, Hornady introduced its version of the 25-grain HPand this was (and is) an excellent bullet, though sadly it appears to be out of production at the moment. His bullets are also exceptionalnot only accurate, but very effective terminally. A 9.5-grain charge of LilGun shot five 20-grain Bergers in .78 inch at 100 yards. My most accurate loading/Rifle is a rare Remington 700 VSS with the factory 26" heavy stainless barrel. Joe Kurtenbach and Caleb Giddings also look at the first-ever optics-ready carry revolvers with the new Taurus 605 and 856 T.O.R.O. Plus, whats not to like about a cartridge with a near absence of recoil that shoots flat enough to take small game out to 300 yards? Cases last just short of forever, an important consideration when choosing a powder for loading bucketfuls of cartridges needed for defending your position from hordes of crazed flickertails. Bergers 25 grain Flat Base Varmint was chosen to represent the 25 grain weight class after noting exceptional accuracy in other calibers with this bullet. This efficiency inspired some exceptional wildcat rounds, like the .20 VarTarg, and the .17 Remington Fireball (RFB) under discussion here. 17 MACH IV. Copyright 2005, 2017 by ChuckHawks.com. To show viewers how to succeed at long range, J. Guthrie gears up for a challenging shot while chasing Colorado pronghorn at long range with DPMS' Panther 6.5 Creedmoor. But he became best known for the development of wildcat and improved cartridges bearing his name. The load was too much for F-Class. The 17 Mach IV was designed by Vern O'Brien, Las Vegas, Nevada, in 1962. My rifle is extremely accurate with the Hornady 40-grain V-Max and Nosler 40-grain Ballistic Tip, but it will not completely stabilize the 50-grain versions of those two bullets. Scott Rupp gets a chance to talk to Aaron Oelger about a few new products from Hodgdon and why reloading store shelves are empty. Chances are, if theyre a shooter, they have a .17-caliber rifle tucked away someplace. Here, listed in alphabetical order, are several of the best .17-caliber rifles available today: Kimber's Hunter Pro Desolve Blak takes the firm's more affordable mountain rifle to new heights. All Guns and Ammo subscribers now have digital access to their magazine content. After firing the factory loads, case lengths had stretched to 1.343 inches. The first one was the .17 Hornet, closely followed by the .17 Bee and later by the .17/222.. A couple thousand of these discontinued bullets were acquired at a substantial savings after the Zombie craze subsided. I first pulled bullets and dumped powder. The 527 has a single-set trigger with a pull of 3.5 pounds that contains some creep, but pushing the trigger forward sets it, and pull weight changes to a light one pound. CFE BLK my go-to .221 Fireball rifle powder produced top velocities and good accuracy, including a .48-inch group at 4,250 fps with 17 grains of powder. And while the burn rate of CFE BLK is too quick for the 17 Remington, Hodgdon recommends it for the smaller cartridge. LilGun delivered much lower extreme spreads of 45 to 69 fps. While shooting, I cleaned powder fouling from their barrels after each 25-round string, but applied no additional copper solvent. Moving to bigger cartridges, when the Hornady 20-grain V-Max exits the .17 Rem. All rights reserved. Pressures generated in Hodgdons pressure barrel for an 18.0-grain charge behind those two bullet weights was only 33,500 and 35,700 CUP respectively. I'm getting 3700fps (3/8" groups @ 100-yds) with the 700 Classic and 3670fps (1/4" groups @ 100-yds) with the 700 BDL. This five-shot, 100-yard group is from 20-grain Superformance Varmint V-MAX loads shot from a CZ 527 American rifle. Barm: I have 3 (three) Varmint type Rifles in caliber 17 Remington. Hornady loads its .17 Hornet Superformance Varmint cartridges with 20-grain V-MAX bullets and 15.5-grain NTX bullets, with a stated muzzle velocity of 3,650 fps for the V-MAX and 3,870 fps for the NTX. They are not the most accurate bullet of the bunch. Articles may contain affiliate links which enable us to share in the revenue of any purchases made. If the rifle is accurate, one really has to be "off the playing field" to assemble handloads that won't shoot. At those velocities, drift isnt as significant as some would lead you to believe, either. Same goes for the Mach IV and Fireball, although the velocity difference between the two bullet weights is less in them. The trim die squeezes the neck down to .17 caliber, and its hardened surface allows squaring up the mouth of the case with a fine-tooth file. The new Sako Finnlight II sports an innovative stock and Cerakote metal paired with the terrific 85 action. There is an obvious allure in velocities of more than 4,200-4,300 fps, but I suspect a steady varmint-shooting diet of Hornadys 15.5 grain NTX would result in premature barrel wear. The Nosler 20-grain bullet was happiest at 0.015 inch. Good brushes, a good one-piece rod, a bore guide and a solvent at least equal to Shooter's Choice are all smart investments. Except for the CCI A17 load, all brands claim a muzzle velocity (MV) of 2525-2550 fps and in our chronograph testing actually delivered average MVs of 2550-2650 fps, depending on the load. Velocity from the 10.75-inch barrel of the XP-100 was just over 3,100 fps, with accuracy as good as that particular gun has ever produced. Contributing Editor for RifleShooter Magazine, Brad Fitzpatrick gives us a review of this modernized version of an iconic favorite. I may just have to try a few of those with the 8208 powder as well. Determined to include a Berger 30-grain load in this report, I asked my friends at Hodgdon to shoot it in their 24-inch pressure barrel. It requires a little more care than some of the run-of-the-mill cartridges, but it provides more unique results within its niche, too. Using bullets from Hornady V-Max, Hornady V-Max or HP. When a new cartridge is introduced, its origins can often be traced to a cartridge P.O. Parker Otto Ackley wore many different hats. Small powder charges result in cleaner shooting than the .17 Remington though all .17-caliber cartridges require frequent barrel cleaning to assure continued accuracy. It varied among the three bullets tried. Copyright 2000-2023 24hourcampfire.com, Inc. All Rights Reserved. I began my shooting tests by using Barnes CR-10 solvent to ensure no copper fouling lurked in the barrels of the test guns. Ballistic coefficients of those with plastic tips are considerably higher than the hollowpoints. This means you have the option to read your magazine on most popular phones and tablets. Formed by necking down Remington's .221 Fireball case and increasing shoulder angle to 30 degrees, O'Brien claimed a velocity of 3,700 fps for a 25-grain bullet. Highly accurate cup-and-core, polymer-tipped and Partition bullets cover most bases, and new bonded bullets and several lead-free projectiles add to the .280's versatility. box; midwayusa.com. Primers open another interesting can of worms. Hodgdon CFE BLK, Shooters World Blackout and Alliant Reloder 10x were auditioned. According to the story, OBrien wagered that his guide could not kill the bear with his rifle in .17 Mach IVand lost the bet. Ruger's multi-role small frame autoloading rifle - Sear - combines AR-10 power with AR-15 Portability. The 20-grain Varmageddon by Nosler is a classic cup-and-core hollowpoint that provides a great option for high-volume, budget-conscious varmint shooters. If looking to acquire an automated powder-charge dispensing unit to speed up precision reloading, don't judge the RCBS ChargeMaster Lite powder scale and dispenser by its name; the Little Green machine packs a heavy-weight punch with speed and accuracy. : 4,638 4,917 Press. The .17 Hornets tiny bullets and a small case capacity mean velocities vary considerably with a slight change in powder weight. It is my fathers favorite rat rifle and I was able to borrow it only because it was during the off-season. Camp Guns: Sometimes Perfect, Other Times Not But Often Essential! [br] Other powders to consider are those in the same burn rate range. The .17-caliber, 20-grain V-MAX (left) is not that much smaller than the .20-caliber, 32-grain V-MAX (center) and Hornadys .22-caliber, 40-grain V-MAX (right). You can use the Horn 25 HP My Rem LVSF likes the 25 VMAX with H4895 I have had as much as 3-6 grains variance in Rem brass. But by using a 7-inch drop tube, I managed to coax in 18.5 grains behind the Berger 30-grain and Hornady 35-grain bullets. Remember, the above accuracy results are averages with all brands of ammunition tested. leaves the others choking on its dust. Last but certainly not least, the ability of CFE BLK to reduce copper fouling in barrels gives it a big edge for high-volume shooting of prairie dogs, ground squirrels, and other varmints. All things considered, this new propellant from Hodgdon ranks among the very best choices available for Remingtons littlest .22-caliber centerfire cartridge. The 218 Bee was developed specifically for the Winchester Model 65 lever action, and despite its extremely light recoil, it has always been factory loaded with tube-magazine-friendly bullets with flatnose profiles. Hornady also calls its new .17-caliber cartridge the .17 Hornet. When shooting ground squirrels and prairie dogs with a bolt-action rifle, I seldom use its magazine anyway. . Brass is easily formed by running .221 RFB brass through .17 RFB full-length dies and trimming to 1.40 inches. All RifleShooter subscribers now have digital access to their magazine content. The CCI A17 load has a catalog MV of 2650 fps and chronographed between 2775 and 2809 fps from our test rifles. 2 scale used in my tests detected no weight variation in charges of CFE BLK dispensed by the Redding measure, IMR 4198 varied by as much as 0.3 grain. Reiber's load consisted of the Remington 6 primer, Hornady case, and Hornady 20-grain V-Max seated out to lightly engage the rifling. The Berger reloading manual shows the exact same maximum powder charge weights for both. Remington factory ammo measures 1.810 inches in length and due to a fairly long chamber throat in the test rifle, the bullet is required to free-travel 0.183 inch prior to engaging the rifling. Very accurate and fast in Remington 700 BDL sporter xswanted Gold $$ Contributor Feb 22, 2017 #6 I tried it. Only a couple of characteristics plague .17-caliber firearms: tiny bullets require delicate rifling that is easily damaged by cleaning equipment; and tiny bores are, well, just plain aggravating to clean. The camera rod of my Lyman borescope is too large in diameter for .17-caliber barrels, so for three of the test rifles I relied on cleaning patches wet with copper solvent to detect the presence of metal fouling. Chamfer and deburr the mouth of the case, run it through the full-length resizing die and the case is ready for fire forming with a reduced powder charge (I use a 20-grain bullet seated over 11.0 grains of H4198). Dimensional differences between the two cases are so slight that load data for the two are interchangeable. I have attempted to chamber Remington ammo in two .17 Mach IV rifles. Precision Redding full-length Type S Match Dies with .195-inch titanium nitride sizing bushing and micro-adjustable seating-die head were used. Winchester created this load, and named it for what it wasswift. Hornady HP. Norma 200, 55gr. The Remington Model Seven is ready, willing and able to handle just about any task. 23.5 grn. Like I said, different rifles, different preferences in primers. Zero the .17 Ackley Hornet with the Hornady 20-grain V-Max at 3,600 fps two inches high at 100 yards and it is two inches high at 200 yards and four inches low at 300. Taking a bit more time at the loading bench can avoid a problem later at the range. Ackleys little cartridge, but loading CFE BLK is faster because it flows through a good powder measure with much greater uniformity in charge weight. The Ruger test rifle used in this report preferred the Remington 6 primer. Pet Loads and Handloader are registered trademarks of Wolfe Publishing Company. Joe Kurtenbach, Executive Editor of Gun & Ammo, and John Myles from Smith & Wesson discuss features of the Equalizer 9mm micro-compact pistol and new-for-2023 M&P 5.7. . Except for the CCI A17 load, all brands claim a muzzle velocity (MV) of 2525-2550 fps and in our chronograph testing actually delivered average MVs of 2550-2650 fps, depending on the load. Hodgdon CFE BLK powder is in the series of CopperFouling Eraser propellants. Full-length sizing is fine if you want cartridges to headspace off the .17s rim, but that amount of sizing set the case shoulders back .005 inch, which can cause cases to split around the web after firing them a few times. Backing the sizing die a partial turn from contacting the shellholder on the press set headspace on the case shoulder instead of on the cartridge rim. Reloder 10x performed exceptionally, assembling .40- and .55-inch groups at 3,950 and 4,051 fps providing an excellent combination of accuracy and velocity. It is a great powder for cartridges from the .17 Remington Fireball to the .22-250 Remington. In the course of our rifle reviews we ordinarily test for accuracy using as many different loads as possible and tabulate the results. The Hodgdons 2012 Annual Manual and the Hodgdon website list about the same maximum loads for the .17 Ackley Hornet and .17 Hornet with some powders. It attained the second highest velocities with 20-grain bullets and the highest velocities with 25-grain bullets. Hornadys 20-grain Z-MAX is the same as the V-MAX in every way, except the polymer tip is Zombie green instead of Hornady red. The S.A.A.M.I. I figured Hornady 20-grain V-MAX bullets would pretty much drop out of the air after they reached 200 yards, but the tiny bullets surprised me. All recorded groups are fired from a solid bench rest at an outdoor rifle range. Hornady dies were used to handload cartridges for the .17 Hornet. While the S.A.A.M.I.-recommended maximum overall cartridge length is 1.680 inches, my Marlin 1894 feeds 1.720-inch-long rounds without a hitch. Reloder 7 did its best with a maximum load of 16.5 grains; .53 inch at 4,039. I dont know how Hodgdon fit 11.8. The 20-grain bullet of Hornady factory ammunition had to free-travel 0.102 inch prior to rifling engagement. 8208 is now my go to powder for the 17 Schism Feb 22, 2017 #7 bobcat93 said: I'm getting 1 1/2" -1 I'm using my cz527 The first die necks a .22 Hornet case down to .20 caliber. Using Hornady .17 Hornet brass to form .17 Ackley Hornet cases eliminates the need for case-forming dies. maximum of 52,000 CUP for the 221 Fireball and also considerably below the pressure generated by a maximum charge of LilGun with the Berger 30-grainer. .17 rimfire rifles are normally tested with a good quality telescopic sight set at a magnification of nine power or higher. The .17 Remington is a fun and interesting round to work with. Neither the author nor Outdoor Sportsman Group assumes any liability for accidents or injury resulting from the use or misuse of this data. As with the above V-Max-equipped offerings, this load is best relegated to targets and non-edible species. Shooting reloads may void any warranty on your firearm. More importantly, the .222 Remington would spawn the elongated .223 Remington, introduced in 1957 (and today is Americas most popular centerfire cartridge); and the shortened .221 Remington Fireball. This means you have the option to read your magazine on most popular phones and tablets. Ackleys load data lists 25-grain bullets with a velocity of 3,585 fps from 12.0 grains of 4198 and 3,570 fps from 11.5 grains of 4227. Today, they are down to one offeringa 25-grain Varmint Hollowpointand its a very accurate projectile. On the other end of the stick, almost all firearm manufacturers offer rimfire rifles chambered in .17 HMR, so shooters can pick and choose. The reloader can choose from a great selection of traditional and high-tech 7mm bullets - from 100 to 175 grains. In 1950, Remington introduced the .222 loaded in a completely unique case based on no other. Pressure indications were still quite mild in my rifle. To show viewers how to succeed at long range, J. Guthrie gears up for a challenging shot while chasing Colorado pronghorn at long range with DPMS' Panther 6.5 Creedmoor. The Hornady .17 case, however, is a bit shorter in length and to the base of the shoulder than the Ackley case. A note on cleaningsince this will be mentioned in any reloading manual or article about the caliber. The best groups resulted from 18 grains of N133 (.66 inch at 3,822 fps, including very low extreme velocity spreads), a 19 grain maximum load of IMR-8308 XBR (.73-inch at 3,874 fps) and 16 grains of LT-30 (.75 inch at 3,622 fps). CZ calls the 527 a micro-Mauser due to its nonrotating claw extractor that grabs the rim of a case as its pushed forward out of the magazine and blade ejector. This American-made, double-base spherical powder is a slower derivative of A-2230. Nosler unprimed brass and Federal Premium Gold Medal 205 Match Small Rifle primers were used throughout. There are others, such as the excellent, mild-mannered .17 Mach 2, the accurate but short-lived .17 Remington Fireball and so on, but the cartridges detailed above are the main players on the current seventeen scene. The first one was chambered for the so-called .17 Pee Wee, which was simply the .30 Carbine cartridge necked down to .17, and the first rifle was built . The 527s barrel is slender with a diameter of just over .5 inch at the muzzle. Pat Mundy 2023 Outdoor Sportsman Group. As mentioned, the .17 was first brought to market with a 25-grain Power Lokt Hollow Point. were shipped to Australian fox hunters than to dealers in the United States because it did not damage pelts as much as larger calibers. However, maximum powder charges for the .17 Ackley are 0.2 to 0.7 grain heavier than for the .17 Hornady. With the 65, I recommend 47.5 grains of Varget or 47.5 grains of IMR 4064. All Rights Reserved. Possibly one of the best varmint load - consistently under 1/4" at 100 yards is 75 grain Sierra (Speer and Remington shoot well too) with 58 grains IMR4350. Powered by UBB.threads PHP Forum Software 7.7.5. Wind resistance? If you can find either the older Berger 25-grain Target HP (smaller nose opening) or the Hornady HP, youll be in business. I had enough primed cases left over for exactly four-shot strings, and one does not waste primers these days. True enthusiasts tend to advise infrequent cleaning of rimfire versions simply to avoid potentially damaging the rifling (and because the rimfire versions just don't leave much fouling) and extreme care in cleaning centerfire versions. Hodgdon LilGun was the best powder tried for high velocity and good accuracy in the .17 Hornet. Starting at 18.0 grains of CFE BLK, I worked up to 21.5 grains, a charge that fills the case about halfway up its neck. The Remington case is about 0.006 inch larger in diameter at its body/shoulder juncture, and its head-space dimension is about 0.004 inch longer. . Slightly compressed charges often deliver the lowest shot-to-shot variations in velocity, while dropping much below 90 percent can result in high velocity spreads. We will continue to update this list as new rifles are reviewed and additional data becomes available. Taurus Marketing Manager Caleb Giddings highlights the features of the new Taurus Raging Hunter 460 Magnum, a purpose-built revolver with a 10.5-inch barrel and an effective recoil-taming brake, with Guns & Ammo Executive Editor Joe Kurtenbach. I have 200 pieces of brass and I'm ready to go, The Official Predator Masters Search Engine. Ackley had his hand in developing decades previously. I have, however, owned and handloaded for the common .17s and the focus of this article will be the first, and in many ways, the finestthe .17 Remington. Hornady currently loads its .17 Hornet with 20-grain V-MAX and 15.5-grain NTX bullets. | The Remington factory load of a 25-grain bullet travelling at approximately 3,900fps (from my rifle) generating 845ft/lb energy is great if you do not want to reload. An additional 0.8 grain of the powder increased velocity by 237 fps. We have found the accuracy potential of all three cartridges to be excellent and essentially the same. When using that primer in this cartridge, it is important to begin with a starting load and keep a close eye on fired primer condition while carefully working up. can also be quite accurate. Its not a spectacular cartridge, though, because a hanging steel plate at 300 yards didnt even move when shot with the tiny V-MAX bullets, but the approximately 200 foot-pounds (ft-lbs) of energy the little bullets still carry at 300 yards is enough to kill a ground squirrel. The factory 20-grain loads were accurate and had a velocity of 3,567 fps when shot from a CZ 527 American. at 4,300 fps and is zeroed two inches high at 100 yards, it is dead on the money at 300 yards. The same charge with 20-grain V-MAXes started out with an even tighter group, but I flipped out the bullet from the fourth shot, which enlarged the group to 1.09 inches at 100 yards. If the owner of that first rifle in 17 Ackley Hornet were still here, he would likely be tickled to see a load with his favorite powder slightly better the accuracy of CFE BLK. A friend of mine has two custom rifles in 17 Hornet, and accuracy from one is best with the Remington 6, while the other prefers the Winchester WSR. As I mentioned, running the case through a 17 Ackley Hornet full-length resizing die bumps back the shoulder, allowing it to fit into the Ackley chamber. The .270 typically calls for charge weights ranging from 55 to 60 grains, so my target is +/- 0.2 grain. My most accurateand one I still haveis a Sako L46. I will say that the 20s, while attractive for the little stuff, are not always a great choice for predators at these velocities. The TaurusTX 22 Compact delivers class-leading reliability, capacity, and shootability in a 22 LR platform, and it's cut for a slide-mounted mini red dot. Blackout loads were extrapolated from .221 Fireball loads tested before, velocities indicating these loads came out about right, with velocities mirroring other powder choices. Still, extreme velocity spreads ranged from 104 to 368 fps with IMR-4227, 142 fps with Reloder 7 and 162 fps with H-4198 shooting 20-grain bullets. Hodgdon Powder is the only current source of handloading data I could find for the new and old .17s. A 50-grain V-Max exiting the muzzle of a rifle in .223 Rem. Sizing bushings are interchangeable and available in .001-inch increments, allowing just-right neck tensioning to accommodate specific chambers (a micrometer is used to measure outside neck diameter of a loaded cartridge and .001-inch subtracted). Magazines are detachable, in both four-shot and seven-shot versions. MSRP: $11.99 per 50-rnd. Compression is light when the Berger 30-grain bullet is seated to an overall cartridge length of 1.830 inches. For called-in coyotes, I switch to the 30-grain Berger, but I prefer the 25-grain V-Max for longer shots. I have owned several rifles in 218 Bee through the years, the first being a Winchester Model 43. I'll second the 4320. Both guns are stock Remington 700's with only Rifle Basix triggers added. RifleShooter Magazine editor Scott Rupp breaks down all the features of the Mossberg Patriot Predator rifle chambered in 6.5 PRC. Fast follow-up shots are easy, virtue of low recoil, and savvy shooters can spot their own impacts through their scope. barm # 13676946 03/21/19. When charging cases, use care. at 3,800 fps has close to the same trajectory. case and fireforming to minimum body taper and a 40-degree shoulder angle, the 7mm TCU is great fun to shoot due to its extremely mild recoil. Subscriber Services. The heavier bullets had much lower extreme spreads, with 43 to 45 fps for the 25-grain bullets and 30 to 66 fps for the 30-grain bullets. Following are the Average Overall Group Size test results for the various .17 caliber rimfire rifles reviewed by Guns and Shooting Online (measured in inches). The spring-loaded micrometer head allows for precise bullet seating depth. Regardless, it was a foolish stunt. at 3,400 fps and zeroed the same is down three inches at 100 yards. When developing its version of the .17 Hornet, Hornady shortened the .22 Hornet case about 0.050 inch to make overall cartridge length compatible with the magazines of existing rifles in .22 Hornet. Most current .270 Win. My best load with the 20gn V-Max was 10gn of Lil Gun for a sizzling 3699fps, but 10gn of AR2205 gave a handy 3535fps and WIN-296 did 3550fps. High density is especially important when loading small-capacity cartridges. * We tested two different Marlin Model 917VS and Ruger K77/17VMBBZ rifles. 2023 Outdoor Sportsman Group. 70 and a sako vixen is: Rem case , cci bencrest pr., 21.2 gr. Lot-to-lot powder variations do exist and in a cartridge this small, they can cause a significant difference in pressure and velocity. My speed obsession may also have worked against me, as the lightest loads in many cases resulted in the best groups (though these were still well above actual start loads). Wolfe Publishing Company | 2180 Gulfstream Suite A | Prescott, AZ 86301. 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